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I want to welcome you to the meeting of Lincoln City Council for today's date March
the third and ask you to please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance followed by
a moment of silent meditation. Really just like United States of.
The Republic for which is why nation. Will literally.
Be.
Welcome in accordance with L B eight ninety eight
a copy of The Open Meetings Act is posted in the back of the chamber. The order of
business for city council is as follows The clerk will call the items listed on the
agenda under public hearing anyone who wishes to speak on an item should come
forward after the clerk has read that item the Afghan in those in favor should
speak first and those who are opposed the opposite may then make one short rebuttal
each speaker should begin by stating your name your address whether you're speaking
in favor or an opposition to the item testimony is limited to five minutes per
speaker after all public hearings the council will vote on resolutions and items
listed under
a third reading on the second and last meetings of each month immediately prior to
a German anyone may speak on an issue that is not on the agenda for that date nor
planned for a future agenda and that open meetings are open mike
a meeting would be next week so Theresa please golfer's I'm. Our first
item will be our public hearing consent agenda items one through nine. This is
the opportunity for the consent agenda and we do have several individuals who are
here today for. Different appointments would invite you to come forward.
Or name as Herb Simic I'm presuming the library board here to introduce will bird
who is going to be appointed. The questions. Well welcome or
pleased to be considered I'm looking forward to working with our terrific letters
OK thank you any questions for Mr Burg. Mostly since he is here today I know you
have
a lot of experience designing libraries and that experience I think. That freight
help here in this process as we discuss the future of our library system I thought
maybe you. Let us know
a little more about your experience with that. Journey Well I've been designing of
an architect for about thirty five years in the been designing libraries for about
twenty five of those. Throughout the Midwest in all sizes and shapes and so as
part of that I've become too gentle library systems around the country and the
language and so I believe provide some value to the board from the perspective.
And make. Sure that Mr Bird question for you and maybe to. As we get more
and more technologically advanced What are your thoughts on building more. As
leaches on
a lot of this already forces the cyber element to the computers in libraries and I
know people like the hard ball humans but understand where that hammocks are maybe
what you've experienced elsewhere but certainly there's been there's been
a shift in that direction but we were still seeing
a need for libraries. To regard as
a medium that's that used in their becoming more and more community centers as well
and we always are going to
a place for people to go to for entertainment and for knowledge especially those
people who can't afford to go out and buy it and so you know one of the big uses
for libraries is during the recession was people doing electronic job applications
going to libraries use and so. There's a there's
a big evolution of how libraries are being used but it's there just as important as
the ever as evolve has been I believe. Other questions for Mr Burg. There is
some data from the Pew Center on that very question that they can be made available
to the committee All right thank you. But could you just see that we get that and
would appreciate that yes thank you very much we appreciate your service to anyone
else here today.
You know these and it is yourself that I am laying and supped and I'm here to I
guess apply to be on the Las board. I have come full couple tech companies in
Lincoln and I'm always I've always been somewhat technically you know gifted I
guess you could say being
a business owner I think it fits about with aliens for great thank you questions
for Mr sup. Appreciate your willingness to serve and this is really one of our key
entities in the city and of course you actually have
a budget that's bigger than what we do so it's important from
a capital standpoint I'm encouraged that I know one of the things I've heard from
past members really as board is sometimes it takes almost
a full term to understand all the dynamics but being
a quick winner your you know your let's not quicker but hope that you enjoy the
service and. Stick around for
a term or two that's good. In the other questions saying then again thank you
very much for your willingness to serve in this important past and thank you very
thank you anyone else here for an item on the consent of gender.
Saying next time we could go ahead and vote on the items under the consent agenda
then items one through six were introduced by camp from
a. Discussion please call the roll Christianson Yes Cook
Yes Emory Yes screwed us fellers yes yes yes seven
does erode item seven was introduced by Christiansen. Second second by John
discussion called Roe Christianson Yes Cook Yes Emory screwed us fellers
yes yes yes motion carry seven does erode our next item then would be our public
hearing little resolutions. Those giving testimony are asked to come forward raise
their right hand for the clerk to administer the oath after the oath witnesses
shall state their names and addresses applicants or witnesses are not required to
stay for the voting session. Before I call I am stern and eleven items ten is
the application of the Lincoln grand cinema for a class I liquor license at eleven
a one piece street and the related manager application of Brian Shandor at this
time I would read into the record that we received
a voicemail from Judith Ervin at six forty five D.
Street calling in opposition to this item. Thank you raise your right hand Do you
solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth as you
very believe it to be I did make it up now to Moni or Mark's leaders or look at
square one when one saw thirteenth Street and not to repeat what I said last time
but I want to thank you for the consideration that you've given to your application
I know
a number of you have actually gone to our complex and all monsoon with the operation
is there and we really do appreciate the consideration of that I also appreciate
the invitation to participate in the subcommittee last week that was appreciated
and because I stand ready to ask any questions or follow up that you may have we
are sensitive to the concerns that the committee has raised regarding I'll call you
know we want to make this still
a family then you and it will be. Worth theater first and entertainment other
amenities second so I'd open up great questions you know thank you questions for Mr
O'Neill. Well. In
in some of our discussions we talked
a little bit about the hours I guess and that. Due to the markets
facilities all have the same hours or their different hours how how does that work
and how's that decided if it's based on market need it will be dependent upon what
the demand is there's no demand they won't open
a lot but the opening date may vary but the opening but the ending date the ending
time will not so we'll stop approx my half an hour of the last showing will close
down the lounge and so you can't get all caught so you know usually the last
showing is. Ten forty five sometimes later but eventually half an hour after
the last last showing it will close. Oh well.
The other issue related to this is our ordinance which prohibits anyone under
sixteen from being in
a license establishment. And I guess there's kind of an assumption
it seems to me that's been floating about that that ordinance would change.
Because without that change would be problematic for your license but that's
a whole separate process we'd have to go through and there would be
a lot of public discussion about that in
a public hearing and we don't know what kind of feedback we'll get from the
community on making that change if we weren't to change that or were not to at
least do more than maybe technical modifications. What would that do to your liquor
license plans. Well it would probably be in the same line is about one hundred
other clients that are represented like and with liquor licenses we have to
evaluate it all because this ordinance affects just about every business with
a liquor license in town and so I think I think the answer your question it
certainly would impact us potentially I mean I hate to speculate what the change
would be I think we've talked about that in the subcommittee and there's
a lot of options I think there's
a lot of legitimate concern on one issue that may need to be addressed but I think
it is
a discussion for another time I think it's independent of this application but we
will follow the rules that apply to everyone and I can guarantee you we will do
that. We want to make sure the you know the rules applied to everyone fairly and if
it is them will naturally will follow it OK Well and I suppose that. Well you'll
just have to see whether or not it makes sense to do the plan as you currently have
in mind. I mean I guess vote today on this liquor license some might take
is implying that we would repeal or change that ordinance I guess I don't know if
that's
a fair analysis or not I think they really are two separate things and we need to
keep that in mind that. This is just one step and were evaluating you tick in
particular on this one but that the community wide policy issue is something we'll
do else that at another time and. That this vote today should not
necessarily be determinative about what result we get with the
ordinance but I absolutely agree and that's
a one hundred forty nine ordinance that needs to be updated to current trends and
the entertainment to those so I agree there are totally separate issues thank you.
Other questions. Somebody contacted me and we've had lots of contacts with people
about you know about the application and. This is just such
a change you know for the community first time that we've had
a movie theater requesting this permit and one individual contacted me.
From the walking and as kind of
a fan of the Milwaukee Brewers and he goes Do those baseball games and indicated
that in that ballpark that there's
a section called family friendly section where alcohol is not served interesting
for a vaulting called the Brewers have
a such as section but there I guess there is. It is that something at all that you
could consider
a section of the theater that they could be designated as family friendly that
where alcohol would not be served. Anything can be considered that's not part of
our application today. I think the market will determine whether those sorts of
ideas and concepts are necessary or want to I think there are certainly
a few in the community that would like that I have no doubt about that if there's
a will there's some real logistical problems or some security problems or be hard
to tell somebody when they're buying
a beer with their pizza which which theater you're going into and there's just
rights and logistical issues but I'd never say no but I'm not here to address that
it's on have that authority and we're not here to. Manage the theater business
at all it's just that that awareness came to me in the last twenty four hours and
some interesting interesting idea. No other questions thank you very
much if you anyone else who is here to speak in favor. Anyone here to
speak in opposition please come forward. Yes please come for.
Me with her Miss if you could stand to the side by the microphone please.
Or go
a little bit more. It could you raise your right hand path OK Do you solemnly swear
or affirm the testimony you're about to give us the truth as he really believe it
to be. I have here oh I have this one question. The
granthi there are uses they have some high school kids that work
in the field or at least they used to there's
a concern can me that if they want to serve alcohol if they've got
people they're minors working behind the concession stand and stuff that's
a concern. And people may be drawn
a drinking and then going home after the sleazier not paying attention to what
they're doing that's all I have to say OK thank you any questions for Miss Cruz
OK I'm not sending anyone else here to testify on the side I'm please come for.
The days to write you Do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you're about to
give is the truth as you verily believe it to be absolutely you. Want to kill us
marks from forty to thirty nine bark widdling. Public speaking
is not my thing right now. Hand it takes some courage for me to get
a print and talk. I hope that you will have the same courage. We see
signs everywhere we see had ties to be. Just saying no.
Just say no we say that to kids all the time if you live by alcohol say no.
You're being lured by alcohol in a city
a Linked In is being lured by alcohol alcoholic interests and people who want to
make money based on I'll call it's time to just say no and that could
be done here I don't know when you dig that boat you know
a couple hours away it is you just say no and I got
a few more things to say. It's just mentioned here just
a little bit ago by the person representing the theater. Decisions were going to be
made based on the market. I don't think the market necessarily is what needs to
make these decisions you've been voted to make these decisions. The other thing is
I heard on news today. They'd be
a special place for them to purchase alcohol I don't think that's the big
problem if they have to stand in line wait for family buy popcorn. And ask us
lay down our alcohol sales I don't think that's the problem I think the problems
where they're going to consume it. I will. And I don't know if the mikes on are not
. Different. If there's people consuming alcohol in
the sleet or where families do go to have family entertainment where they don't
have to face all the cell call why do we have to have people at this show trying to
crowd through the line getting their seats slopping alcohol down the necks of
people if that were to happen why not have
a special area as was mentioned here earlier where they can consume alcohol if they
have a special place to buy the alcohol they can have
a special place to consume the alcohol they don't need to be consuming at behind or
around my kids I'm kind of old father but I've got still teenage kids
and I'm trying to set
a good example and I think that the Just say no is an example that needs to be
carried out not just talked about and then vote yes.
I think as. Adult I've got
a few notes here to try to keep me on line. I don't think the city. Should be
making changes in policy and in ordinances.
Always changes based on people who want to make money on possibly the
weaknesses of individuals and I say weaknesses. If
people or anybody cannot go an hour and a half in
a family theater without having to consume alcohol there's something wrong with
the person now maybe they like to but they can go do that where they serve alcohol
whether it be a bar or whatever that doesn't have to be brought in and in
a main gold with family activities with teenagers and younger yet seeing this where
the adults can't control their own. Whatever the their inability let's say
to control themselves if somebody cannot go without drinking for an hour and
a half you know theater there's something wrong there and I don't think the city
has to change its policies not one of that person you got one OK I didn't know
there's
a time limit. I don't think family entertainment needs this has
even been shootings in theaters just individual shooting someone's spills popcorn
on somebody a little disagreement pulls out a gun and if you've got
a conceal and carry permit you can have
a gun on you. Mixing alcohol with guns I don't think that something at the US
necessary either but that is at least going in that direction I say at least you
can eliminate the alcohol. I say if we say just say no and we preach
just say no I say let's do it let's just say no. And not just be lured
by alcohol interests THANK YOU THANK YOU questions for Mr Marks appreciate your
testimony today sir thank you anyone else here to testify on this item please come
forward.
Please re do you soundly swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the
truth as you really believe it why do you think they butchered whoreson here like
and excuse me. Maybe I'm behind the times by I don't believe you fix that law that
says unaccompanied minors can be and. The savages serve liquor after nine pm
so it be pretty disingenuous to issue a license to mark
a Sears when you know they're going to be breaking the law. So you turn no I guess
I mean it's kind this is because the OK I've seen you quit as manager of
a pair you know when they go in their past and say well you had one parking ticket
last year to the year before me asked me
a little bit but rightfully so you look in the past and there's past violations of
law and here we are about well maybe we'll see to issue
a license to establish that we know it was going to break the law from day one so I
think until you fix that other one that's that. Either this should be tabled or
rejected thank you thank you and questions for Mr our son. Thank you
anyone else here to testify. Mr O'Neill would you like to respond oh.
Thank you right just the service there won't be any servers underage will be all
legal age over nineteen and in the in the lounge serving alcohol so there will be
school kids doing there will be all proper legal age and that will fall those rules
you know I think the point about the timing of this. It's it's going to be some
time before Marcus starts serving in the grand if we get
a look license. Which will give us some time to work through this ordinance issue
and if we have to delay pulling
a license to do so we'll do that we're going to work with the city to make sure
that this is done properly and and you know there's just
a lot of things to think about the ramifications Dany ordinance Amendment and I
think you can't rush to that and we'll will hold off until we. Were going on the
ordinance to so does that mean basically as long as the existing warnings is on the
books you won't be. Allowing minors or it's fifteen and under into
the. Premises if alcohol is being served that that is separate the rule that's on
the books will be followed or you just won't be serving alcohol until that rule is
changed in
a way that allows you to operate your business where you'd like to but we're going
to we're going to give it to three months to find out where this kind of shakes out
Marcus is not going to break the law I can tell you that. We may have to do
something else to do that to to get this moving I mean this is this law in the
ordinance is being violated as we speak every day all over the city but by the city
. So it will need to be addressed and I think you know we just want to work with
everybody and while are based saying we're going to violate the law it's being
violated tonight so we're not going to we're going to work through with the city
and make sure it's it's done right and brought up to current standards so I don't
know if that answers it your question or not but I'm trying to. Yes OK Thank you
for the question I have
a question for Mr Khan for. We can get some clarification here and I ask this
question in our I'll see you know at ask you Do you know hopefully the same answer
because it was given by some of the attorneys work with you is there
a basis in law state law or city law that can be used to deny this liquor license
application to your knowledge. I think that.
The. Alkan should be.
Weighed in the same basis they you do every time that you weigh like
a license there is nothing on the record of Marcus theatre or the manager
indicating that they would not be
a good person older like your license you don't have anything in the say your
ignorance or in state law that prohibits a theatre from having
a liquor license you have an ordinance on the books which we've
heard
a lot about and I think we have to acknowledge that Mr O'Neill is right that there
are we are in
a situation where that hasn't been enforced I wouldn't think that you could say
that you can deny Marcus theatres
a license on the basis that you speculating that they might. Violate that law when
you're not in forcing it against others so I don't. See any of those
grounds there is
a provision in state law that allows you to. Do you know I like your license is
because of public objections that's the one area that and you've had some public.
Jackson's But that's the one area and just another thing just for the public's
knowledge of the process here two things could happen today the council could
approve this liquor license application or we could deny it what happens in either
case after today it hurt the recommendation of the city council's only advisory.
You don't have authority to grant or to deny
a liquor license said under state law that's only the state liquor commission that
can do that so if you if you recommend approval or if you recommend denial of
still go to state like
a commission and they will make their own determination thank you other questions
do not see any. Just. One comment on the
process I guess we would ask that you just don't force us up to the state. Because
it is expensive for my client to pay me and to bring them in to testify and it is
a public hearing apostle money and I hope that we get treated the same as all the
applicants are come before you very early and I do I do think we are and I just
hope we don't force this up to the state because it's an expensive process and I
think Marcus has been a nice a nice
a significant player in Lincoln it's involved the community with the corners grow
talent think it's it's mending millions to improve the brand. They're making
a significant investment and we hope that that can continue and will get the
consideration today Richard thank you. Right next time Theresa
All right call item twelve application of Casey's retail company doing business is
Casey's general store twenty seven twenty two expand its class B.
Liquor license by the addition of an area measuring approximately twelve feet by
forty feet for a new license to area described as
a one story building approximately forty feet by eighty eight feet located at one
thousand one south thirteenth Street to raise your right hand Do you solemnly swear
or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth as verily believe it to
be yes I think you. I my name is Michelle Crites I'm the district manager for Casey
General Stores here in Lincoln and my address is twenty one eleven Southwest
eighteenth Street welcomes Crites OK So Casey's general store has
been at this slogan or there has been a general store had
a convenience store in this location for many years yes and what you're seeking
here is to increase the size of the area where you have off sale
liquor right actually the the addition Yes it does go on that side of the store
where the cooler and the beer Cape are located but the square footage in that is
actually reduced the addition is actually on the sales floor we did expand the
store. To one side but we actually added more fountain choices for user that
houses like frozen pizzas and other grocery items and then we extended the grocery
aisles so the actual cooler and the beer cave space was actually reduced in the
remodel So OK so that that was my understanding of what was going
on here OK So so what you're saying is there's actually less square foot is that's
going to be designated for alcohol with this new current proposal OK All right
other questions. Thank you very much anyone else here to testify regarding
this item. Do not see any ice on
a call item thirteen this is the application of Java Cafe in roasting to expand its
classified liquor license by the addition of an area measuring approximately
seventeen feet by forty feet for
a new licensed area described as the northwest section approximately sixty two feet
by forty feet of
a two story building including an outdoor area approximately fourteen feet by
thirty five feet located at twenty six forty nine North forty eight st it's right
Do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony about to give is the truth as you
really believe it to be that you think. It is the nursery home or Tootsie or
Sheldon's tree and like you. Good afternoon you have any questions or comments.
While you're your application describes that you're expanding your outside area I
want is tell us
a little bit about your business plan and what you intend. Doing in business for
twenty years I have. Run out of storage space and or kitchen space and have
a higher demand for seating as well outdoor seating areas not part of the expansion
the expansion is all interior and. Part of the actual seating area will be taken up
their current seating area will be taken up by kitchen area and storage so there
will be additional kitchens so we can better serve
a clan sell. And have more seating so we can grow as
a business for get. Other questions.
OK. Thank you very much thank you anyone else here to speak on the site I'm.
Do not see any next item All right I'll call item fourteen the man
a trap location of Roger Patton for risky sports bar and grill at forty six
eighteen lane ave. Welcome to raise your
right hand Do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is
the truth as you verily believe it to be this is
a new thing Roger Patton sixty nine or north east great lake and. Welcome thank
you thanks for being here so tell us about your your business plan what you intend
on doing I don't have
a business plan which is going on I mean to be is the manager OK. I've been in
business for thirty over thirty some years at
a bar downtown the green frogs alone you know I had to for
a shoe leather license you know reverse replace Champ's in that you sold that
and I had to come back today and pay the bills and so we will reopen as risky as
we've been there for two years ago OK Very good thank you questions. Do not
Sandy thanks for being here today thank you guys. And next item
on Call me let me let me back up anybody here to testify in support or in
opposition to the side of the OK Next I'm sorry I don't fifteen minutes your
application of Julian Carter for greenfields cafe at seventy nine hundred south
eighty seventh Street. Do you solemnly swear or affirm the truth that testimony
you're about to give is the truth as you really believe it to be I do thank you
Julian Carter I live it twenty one fifteen twenty second Street I just recently
became the general manager of Greenfield in December so we're just kind of needing
to switch over to me from our old manager's. Questions
for Ms Carter. I'm
a little concerned about the items that are listed in your criminal history so yes
a fairly recent and. I guess. Regarding
twice or. Driving on
a suspended license and fictitious plates some things that aren't just accidents
yet said and I guess I'd like to know more about how that came about because you
know sticking with the rules is important no not really it was well with the I I
think that the things that probably continue most were not what I would consider
recent I'm thirty now so what happened to me when I was twenty two might not seem
you know that. That recent to me I was really young and I did make some really
stupid mistakes. But the driving under suspension is twenty twelve suspension
twenty. I completely just was not great organizing things and not realize that my
license suspended I don't have any good excuse for that what about the no insurance
and twenty eleven no insurance Well that's why my license was well and an eleven
I'm sorry I don't remember exactly but yeah I. Had but my insurance
lapse. OK Well like I said it's you know I understand
a little and I don't have to follow the rules and in the case of violation of the
rules then to accept that there's certain consequences and driving under suspension
shows that you're only going to license suspended because of some other violation
yes and then you're expected not to drive absolutely absolutely not happen twice
and yet it so I'm not trying to make you see
a strange thing I made some some fairly stupid mistakes and yet that one wasn't
just
a couple years ago I just didn't realize I was suspended without pay and those are
not the kinds of things that I. See myself doing anymore I'm really trying to turn
my life around by becoming the general manager at Greenfields you know I've been
a waitress for quite
a long time I have three kids I'm trying to show them that Mommy can you know be
a career woman as opposed to just having
a job and so that's really important to me that I can do that and show that I'm
making the good choices now and and doing things the way they're supposed to be
done so thank you. Thank you so you indicated that you
have been working as
a waitress at Greenfields or yes I think I can filter two years OK. And back come
following up on Mr Cooke's question is your license currently suspended or is my
driver's license Oh no it's not OK for me. And them the most
a looking looking at kind of other more recent criminal act typically there was
a. Faffed of money or goods. Under three hundred dollars could
you could you tell us a little bit about that that was mainly
a misunderstanding I was the president P.T.A.
And my children's school and make me. I was in charge of things we had
a very disorganized system and so our treasurer resigned and things were missing
and so as the president I had to take personal responsibility for that I. Pled
guilty because everything should have been my responsibility and I. Couldn't verify
where those things had got so I took responsibility for it and. Pled guilty for it
because there was there was no one else to blame so I had to take that on myself.
Or other questions Mr Yes Ms Carter you said your general General Manager
greenfields what how long you've been general manager since December December third
OK before that time you were a waitress there yes a well and
a shift manager so. In
the course of your working at Greenfields yeah I assume that you've had
a. Liquor sales permit So yes your personnel are training Well I've had
the I'm the responsible beverage separate straining that all servers and services
said to have to take over the age of nineteen I'm in the process of trying to get
the manager's training which I understand is not necessarily required but sounds
like
a really good idea so I've left. For voice mails now for the woman who's in charge
of that and will continue to do so until I can the get that taken care of as well.
Right and the other questions thank you. Anyone else here to testify
regarding this item and support an opposition do not see any next time
all right we can go ahead and vote on these items if Council chooses Yes if we
could vote on them individually certainly. Mr Gerrard moving provable item
twelve you mean well let's do items ten and eleven first. You want to give
it one of those you know let's take in the order that they're on the adjustment
tempted OK OK that's right I'm ten. Likes me here I'm sorry. All
right I don't tan would be the Lincoln grand cinema verite class
a liquor license at eleven
a one piece street and this is for approval organize an approval. Motion was made
with their second second segment Trent. Discussion.
Again I think we've we've had meetings on this we we I'll see met with that we've
we've had now two hearings on the issue and it was as was clarified by our attorney
the. Sablik or the commission is the one that approves the license of this while
we may or may not agree with with the idea of serving alcohol and in the Grand
Theater it's something that that the that the owner of the theater can and can
choose to do and apply for and if the Liquor Commission grants that they would do
so I think we'll be getting ourselves if it's not very very likely that it's
granted and they've already granted three and there's a pending application for
a fourth theater in the Ohio area that that have this this license and so it seems
to be kind of an inevitability that it will be happening and Lincoln would just ask
again that that the. Marcus theatre consider what they can do to.
To offer some some options in terms of hours and locations so that people who who
choose not to be around alcohol may have opportunities to do so on that location.
Well I don't know that it's inevitable given that we have an ordinance on the books
that has to be addressed separately and and. Based upon the feedback we've
gotten on this I don't think anyone should assume what people in the community
might say about changing that ordinance I think we have to go through that process
and it's very unusual to get the kind of feedback on the liquor license that we've
received on this and we've all gotten
a lot of e-mails at least I have not received any that are in favor of this change
all believe we should turn this liquor license down. We heard from our city
attorney regarding even the legal aspect public objection is
a basis for saying no to
a liquor license. When we're discussing treating liquor licenses in similar ways I
would say this liquor license is different from other applicants this is
a very different venue. This is
a large multiplex theater. That is visited daily by
a large number of under-age people
a lot of children. And that's not what you have at
a bar and it restaurants often young kids are accompanied by their parents when
they go to dinner. This is different. A lot of parents.
Feel comfortable that this is
a safe environment they can drop their kids off even pre-teen kids that their and
their kids can be safe can go to
a movie and then be picked up after the movie. I think serving alcohol opening
a bar in a movie theater like this changes that significantly and that
a lot of parents will no longer view this as
a safe and family friendly place to drop off their kids we had testimony from Kit
bashers the Lancaster County Human Services coordinator also the letter came from
Sarah Hoye the juvenile justice corner both asking us to deny this liquor license
and project extra mile wrote us
a letter they work to prevent underage drinking and they have similar
concerns. You know I guess I think that a movie theater is is
a place where you should feel that parents should be able to feel are safe for
their kids that it isn't just like every other business and that given the
community feedback we've gotten so far I I think that. There's
a real concern about this by an awful lot of people so. I plan to vote no on this
liquor license I think this is the wrong place for
a liquor license. I think all of us are given
a lot of thought to this application because it has raised so much interest and I
don't disagree with you I think this absolutely makes the theater of the Grand
Theater in particular a less family friendly environment and as
a parent I probably would be less likely to drop my children off alone at this
particular theater knowing that there's
a bar that is in service while they're there. But I guess
what I keep coming back to is that I think that this is the the Marcus theater
company's decision to make this particular location cater to
a more adult clientele and that it's not necessarily the city council's. Job to
tell them that they have to continue to focus in on
a younger clientele even if I would prefer that and so I hope that they will listen
to the input that we have had from so many dozens of people who do feel very
strongly that they would like to continue to have an alcohol free environment for
their children and as members of the council have asked that they consider what
hours they actually operate that bar so maybe there are some shows that are alcohol
free. But I think it's their choice to make this
a more adult oriented theater and that and then the rest of the theaters in town
that don't have bars remain alcohol free where we're parents who want to avoid that
and go. My concerns about this let me just talk to some leaders the police
department they're not concerned about this in part because they think it's
a low risk drinking environment where alcohol is not the main attraction so I hope
that will provide some reassurance to folks along with the fact that Marcus leaders
has a vested interest in making this
a pleasant experience I mean if that they're not trying to attract binge drinkers
that's not going to help them succeed in their business model so. I agree the
ordinance has not been repealed yet it could be modified in ways that I hope will
will appease the concerns that many of us have but for today when we're just
considering their ability to have
a liquor license I I don't see how we can deny it. But.
I don't think in seven years that I've had. A
a issue where every call I got said no I get two calls from from
principal of high school here in Lincoln said No I agree with Carl
that probably in the long run. Since they have Marcus has.
Alcohol licenses not a law that this is probably
a done deal but I don't think I would do my constituency fair if I didn't at least
vote what they ask me to do and this is certainly not
a kind of condemnation of Marcus or Mr Neale. O'Neil or I apologize.
It is not it it's it's my constituents tell me this is either you know something
about no. Paper shame Marcus theatres Mr O'Neal going through this process
with us it's been we've had several meetings on it and we've had
a lot of discussion. You know. After going up to Omaha and seeing how some of the
some of the theaters operate up there I felt more comfortable about it just because
see sometimes seeing is believing and. I'd like having the opportunity to do that
I think this can be done were it. Where we can have
a policy. That you know can reflect some of the needs to keep people away that need
to be protected like young folks and. Get
a different ordinance but I think I really do see of those two separate issues and
public policy does take time and that's for this body they go back and look to see
how we can make that policy better and put
a put something in place that. Makes it so not just the Grand can operate but the
other the other establishments that are out there like the arena like bowling
alleys can be able to operate. And be in compliance with the law so I'm going to
vote yes on this and. You know look to the other members of the council to work to
get
a policy in place that makes sense and. I also took the advantage in the time we had
to go over to Omaha to the Majestic Theater and take a look it was
a Friday evening I took my family. Elder and invited
a friend of mine who lives right near the Majestic Theater and he has children from
ages twelve down to three and I asked him his opinion after we've been through the
experience on the Friday evening very busy lots of people there were people in the
bar there. And I saw one person take
a glass of beer into the Lego movie so he didn't cause too much of
a ruckus that I noticed but the issue really came down to this to me after looking
and watching what people were doing and then asking my friend from Omaha you know
who had been going to this theater before and after and he told me with the changes
overall that Marcus theatres has may have made to the Majestic Theater the same
kind of changes they're going to make to the proposed to make to the Grand Theater
he would never go anywhere else to go see
a movie and I can tell you my experience was that there's
a reason right now if you haven't gone to the Majestic Theater and experienced
a movie in that venue you've got to try because I am tempted to go backward Amada
see a movie that is so not such a nice theater and it is
a wonderful experience I don't see how. Marcus theaters
could do any better than they have done in this and I'm going to support them in
their requests for her license. That's. Right.
With that Theresa please call the role Christianson Yes cook no Emery No Yes
fillers Yes Gaylor Baird Yes Camp Yes motion carried five to two.
Item eleven is
a manager application of Brian Chandler for the Lincoln grand cinema some wish to
have approval or denial of approval. Seconded by Trent discussion
yes I'll just note this is just the manager application judging the fitness of this
particular individual I have no objection or concern about him as an individual so
it would be unfair I think to vote no on vigils although yes on manager. Thank you
it's been
a couple or three weeks since we had our initial hearing and as I recall Mr Shandor
has worked for Marcus for some time and has managed to manage the others and I'm
a hobbit that are involved in this business so there have been no no violations no
reason not to approve him. With
a place called Iraq Christianson Yes Cook Yes Emory Yes yes feller's Yes Gaylor
Baird Yes Camp Yes Bush and Kerry seven to zero I don't twelve is the case is
general store for one thousand one south thirteenth Street approval.
By Roy discussion. Please call the role.
Christianson Yes Cook Yes Emory Yes screw just sellers yes paired Yes can't.
Carried seven to zero item thirteen A C.
Application of job at twenty six forty nine North forty eight st for approval.
Move by John seconded by Trent discussion of the role. Christianson Yes Cook Yes
Emery Yes yes sellers yes Gaylor Baird Yes Camp Yes Kerry seven to zero
item fourteen then is the manager application of Roger Patton for risky set forty
six eighty latent. Second. Move by John second by Trent discussion
called Roll Christianson Yes Cook Yes Emery Yes Scrooge Yes sellers yes Gaylor
Baird Yes Camp Yes motion carried seven dizzier Oh then item fifteen is
a manager application of Julian Carter for greenfields So one wish to move approval
or denial denial second motion made by John psych the by John the fun.
Well I guess I'd like to ask for
a one week away from field support this measure we did this not very long ago with
you stop. With the I mean. I certainly understand concerns now the same concerns on
the other hand if you are trying to turn over
a new leaf and trying to make something of life I don't think it's fair for us to
block that we if I remember right will write in one of the managers from the right
and I agree with them I mean it would be
a good idea in that we will you know so they understand this what our concerns are
. I would withdraw my motion for one with both of them but all second Doug's.
Continue public hearing for the Robert hearing and then you could bring the manager
with you to discuss this so when with the one week to the way I know I know this
seems like it's out of the you know it's
a delay for you but I'm telling you right now if we voted right now you wouldn't
win. Sure you. Can
please call the world that was seconded by me thank you for trying to thank you
kind of. Serious. Here since I'm
yes Cook Yes Emory Yes Eskridge Yes repaired yes camp Yes Bush and
Kerry seven to zero just. To clarify it's probably OK but timeline wise not
a problem not
a managers. All right well going to court public hearing ordnances second
reading item sixteen is vacationing one three zero zero five vacating the north
twenty one feet of Holdridge street right of way from the west right of way line of
the North twentieth circle to the west property line up
a lot fifty two irregular tract. Welcome it was because of my name is Michael
Devlin be into partnership three for the victory lane Lincoln Nebraska six to eight
like room for this application is that one of his property with plans to expand the
building of your own do it this way if you swallow us if approved to purchase
property to provide additional parking for the building. It's really questions to
me that thank you any questions for Mr Tatham. Anyone. Do not see any of
you anyone here to testify on the side of that operation for staff that could be
Randy Hoskins or.
This is. Unusual in that this used to be an arterial street and now
it is good in St. If the amount of space that's being left
if we approve this vacation is thirty six feet from the center line is that.
You don't have this in front of you. I guess the question is.
We have a bike trail that goes through there and I guess we're leaving
a little more space so that we can accommodate that bike trail and I I'm I'm always
a little concerned when we vacate space we'll never get it back is there some
reason we should be concerned I know even because like trail standards change over
time and we have some in town that were you know eight feet now say they're old
they're packed some of them are very very busy and we say our new standard is ten
or twelve feet I don't want to get into
a situation where here we are somehow just the minimum and we find that five or ten
years from now I would like to have four more feet and. I don't know maybe nobody
is prepared to speak to this today. I'd not sure that I can I don't know.
You know if parts has any thoughts of whether or not. The standards will change or
not OK.
This issue was in the staff report yes we're asking for thirty nine feet right at
seven thirty six feet it was reviewed at the park department public works and
they've both felt that that was adequate because of a lift to accommodate probably
a ten foot bike lane which is our current standard Well that's what I was wondering
about because it's. We're comfortable that you know it's like
a little bit more yes. OK well it's just once we do it we do it
just want to make sure it's right certainly come up before we have been really
narrow spaces like on it but as long as it's we're talking about
a ten foot it wasn't clear to me how the layout was and if it's a comedy it's
a ten foot maybe. So that's thirty nine feet from the center line right and the
other side of the street you know. The other side street is after the bit wider I
think it's of varying their bets they're been vacations over time and so the set
backs vary. From block to block a lot
a lot. Better.
Than north I think it's thirty nine on the north side of things little bit more on
the south side because originally it was this hundred twenty foot right away. OK
All right well. Thank you. For the question I.
Do not see anyone anyone else here who wishes to testify and Suborder in opposition
to this item don't see any next item All right I'll call item seventeen adopting
the supplements to link in this book Code dated June twenty third team in December
twenty third seen as part of the official link in his book Code Broadcom for the
city attorney this is something that we ask you to do every year this is in order
to cut
a five day provisions of the ordinance is the amendments to the code that have been
enacted during the year and it's just formality to make sure that those become part
of her official like
a municipal code. Questions for Mr Comfort not see any
anyone here who wishes to testify on this item please come forward. I don't see
any treason next time all right call item eighteen amending section one the
ordinance one thousand nine zero four past August twelfth two thousand and thirteen
relating to this pay schedules of employees whose classifications are signed to the
pay range which is prefixed by the letter and by amending classification code for
zero two zero two revised the classification specification for athletic supervisor
as set forth on attachment eight. I mean Daniel human resources the athletic
supervisor classifications an existing class and we are seeking to expand it to
allow for some functions that Parks and Rec need to expand the golf program so it's
basically making this class
a more flexible for them we're not changing the range assignment at all so that's
why we bring before you thank you questions for Mr McDaniel.
Because I would ask
a staff question for Len. Like him for. So
let if you could just explain this person's job responsibilities and how they will
be. Particularly involved with the golf program absolutely when John's willing
imparts migration I think is the council knows over the past year we've been
working on
a sustainability plan for the Lincoln City Golf program one of the things that
we've identified that we've been told that actually is going on nationally is that
we need to put more emphasis on player development and player retention and so that
will be a lot of the the responsibilities of this position is to develop
a new player development program that will be based on the P.G.A.
Get off ready program and and then also to work with making that transition from
from lessons and learning to play golf to actually then playing golf on
a full size course that nationally that's what the P.J.
Is finding is that there needs to be more emphasis on helping people to me. That
transition to retain them within the program based on what's happening nationally
we think that this position will actually pay for itself over time because if we
can get additional people playing the city golf courses being comfortable playing
the city golf courses and then retaining them playing the city golf courses
hopefully we can either attenuator hopefully change the current trend of declining
number of people playing the courses part of this person's responsibilities will
also be to oversee the operation of the egg or I get the Agere golf Warning Center
that probably the egg or golf course club house currently we contract for those for
that work and instead of contracting for that will be assigned that work to this
new person in this position will then also bring the funding that we had previously
used to contract for those services to help pay for this position so. That I guess
the other thing that this person will be doing because this hopefully is
a good advertisement hoping to recruit somebody so it gets approved is that today
we'll also be involved in helping develop the kind of the annual strategic plan for
the Lincoln City gone through ground including marketing seasonal pricing structure
our capital improvements so I have some administrative responsibilities but most of
this is really an emphasis on player development Thank you. For the beast of the
agar center and they will be they will be and there is
a nice office space in that building and so they'll have an office space there and
then they'll oversee the staff who operate that seasonally as well as you know all
of the clubhouse operations food and beverage merchandise sales booking tee times
we also expect them to be developing some new leagues for beginning golfers.
There is there
a financial impact of this change. Within the gall program when you see the golf
budget there will be and because this will be they were actually eliminating an
F.T.E.
Higher level higher classification level within the golf program and this in part
will replace that So overall within the within the golf program we should be about
a wash when we're adjusting responsibility as
a proportion of the golf manager responsibilities are included now in this position
so we're looking over all that at how responsive it would be organize within the
golf program but it should be should be in that. No net change of censure within
the funding. And the question I think. John was mentioning earlier today
that we received
a letter and it might have been sent to you from Martin massing elf informing us
about the university's program and and suggesting that we partner with them in
utilizing some of their students for for staffing and instructional purposes isn't
something that they we have done can do we done
a little bit of it and actually I was excited to see that letter because we've been
involved in several meetings lately with the professional call program that you're
now one of the things that their students have to do as part of their program is
essentially
a pride to come or they have to get. An internship in doing essentially golf
lessons for golf player development programs and we're hoping developing an ongoing
relationship where we can get. Students in turns from the professional golf
management the P G M program that you and L.
To do lessons add Egger as well as the other courses so yeah this is
a significant potential for
a partnership with the P G M program thank you and other questions do not see any
Thank you very much anyone else here who wishes to testify in support or an
opposition to this item. Next time recently. Gone for public hearing
resolutions Item nineteen is approving the city of Lincoln redevelopment agreement
between Piedmont shopping center and the city of Lincoln for the Piedmont shopping
center redevelopment project relating to the redevelopment of property generally
located at twelve sixty five south cotton or pull apart.
David Lane to serve in development department director. Thank you. If you grew up
in Lincoln in the sixty's and seventy's. Woful it was.
Watermark. It was located.
Active in. A lot of things going on in the Piedmont shopping center was one of the
first in the Lincoln construct in the fifty's a matter of fact. But it has been
a need of significant make mince and updating and it has changed hands and it's in
the hands of an active new owner who has invigorated the project both externally
and internally looking for tenants as soon as may be. Why today is
a timely opportunity to hear this and perhaps take action in the in the overly time
frame necessary this is what what is there now.
Year. There's
a difference but between landscaping wide very pedestrian friendly swathes around
the buildings. Additional trees in the parking lot landscaping on the west side to
buffer the neighborhood which now has
a relatively ugly look at the back end of the. Center and on the C.
Street side to the north so both of those will be buffered from passers by
pedestrians and neighbors one of the reasons that neighbors have been not only
conferred with but excited to see some of these things happen and additional reason
the neighborhood is excited about this project is because. This picture you were
there walking face if you're not going to be in the parking lot for the sidewalk.
It's about this wide and it's right next to the street it would meet any standard
ever contemporary street at all. And by the way kids don't use it what
you're doing is you're walking right here next to thirty five and forty five one
hour traffic and you're right next to it the sidewalk to the far side of this berm
. Will be safe. It will be very
usable and I think that's
a reason why the neighbor was excited about this for external reasons changes
including outdoor dining. Me including some of this stone work that's going to be
done. Some landscaping in the area and those are parts
of the project that we have asked and the developers offered to do as part of the
tax income and financing the developers are going to spend four point seven million
dollars That four point seven million dollars We hope raises seven hundred fifty
seven thousand dollars of tax income financing if it. Doesn't it to be the
developers responsibility this is the developer purchased bond. Now oh the
money that. Is available. Six hundred forty thousand dollars is to be spent
cladding the building on the outside with a
a well above what is required by law in the way of I had some facade
there's money for energy and hence once landscaping in the parking lot there's
money for site preparation and then there's money for improvements in our Right of
Way land that we own the border this location and that amount is
a hundred and two thousand dollars the total project when you add both the
developer and in this public private partnership money is five point four million
dollars. The facade enhancement include new stone veneer
new cap stones new cornices new fabric on ins and stucco finish and the energy
includes the lighting and reduced energy usage the area was blighted
October two thousand and twelve by both the Planning Commission and then of course
by your actions and in the Planning Commission. Support of the Pete months
plan this plan amendment for this as in conformance with the conference of plan in
January of two thousand and thirteen this is been
a pretty compressed timeline and I'd be happy to answer any questions although the
developer and the developers architecture here and available to answer any
questions you might have about the project to thank you Mr Landis questions for him
all right I do not see any. Care to. It's been
a while I missed you. Steve Glen owner of Piedmont shopping center
where we're extremely excited to get started on this we have actually new tenants
that are waiting to be able to get moved in as soon as we can get it going we. Have
been received very well by the community everybody seems to appreciate what we're
doing and we really feel excited that we can bring part of it we really feel this
is
a great big part of history of Lincoln and the shopping center there it's it's seems
like it's just
a focal point for that whole community that whole area and we want to. We're
committed to make that improvement we're excited about it we've been working
diligently for six months now on the design of it and elements of it to make it so
that it. Actually keeps
a lot of the historical side of the of the shopping center there with the original
brick stone facade and in parts of that facade so you will still see part of the
old Piedmont when the new Piedmont shopping center comes into play sell we tried it
have
a very delicate balance between old and new and also the excitement is related to
we wanted to make it so it was
a center that could facilitate bicycles and walking and make it so it's really
a family friendly for the whole community and we've done that with the design
elements and and pet friendly as well one of the things that we we're going to have
is not only veterinary but we have
a grooming center and we're designing it says not only pet
a family friendly but pet friendly as well so we think this will be
a very exciting Center for the community. And we have our shovels ready and we're
ready to go. Questions for Mr going to talk of course but the lighting
that's just. It will be only the lighting apparently that the man in the parking
lot asked. For dork.
Welcome Christy joy twenty four thirty six North Lincoln Yes.
So this will be only the lighting in the parking lot right OK And what kind of cut
offs will it have because there are
a lot of residences nearby I'm just wondering about the light escaping the property
and and what those pictures would do for that and then those are great questions
the life fixtures the way we have the parking lot design is using the light on the
parking lot versus having it go off of the property we also have on the west side
and the north side the direct down lighting for the security so.
Making that
a minimum impact on the surrounding community or neighbors so some of the lights
may be off at night then you have some for security but maybe some will be off or
fall from
a parking lot standpoint will be meeting all the requirements for the lighting of
the parking lot and then there will be up lighting on the building proper that will
be on
a timer OK Well when you say meeting other if there if that nobody is open say in
the middle of the night I don't know what the requirements are for lighting the lot
at that time well and we also have
a crawl along the street the city lights those will be on those while the on for
the schools are acting is also helping to light the street the street pub and the
place for it OK and then there was one thing I wanted to about the. To
destry and path and I'm sorry I didn't mark this which was. About
you have
a new sidewalk that'll be going along. A cotton or to the having it up against the
edge correct against the parking side right and so and it's how wide this is
a six foot sidewalk six foot OK with that two foot area for overhang with the cars
so there's two foot and then six foot of sidewalk I don't know why. I have this
memory of seeing ten feet somewhere in the agreement that I'm against the side of
the building the sidewalks are ten foot that's well OK that's what I OK I soon when
I saw the tent I thought there must be against the building because that's where it
would make sense to have time but not OK all right they are correct and the
building that's in the we will be removing all of those sidewalks and making those
wider OK that are currently existing OK Thank you your welcome OK Other
questions. One do not see any anyone else here who wishes to testify
in support for any opposition to the side of. The question for staff
question for STAFF OK for or ride. With.
You were here last time we talked about this Rick Paon had worked with us to just
correct some of the typos that were in the hundred page redevelopment agreement I
want to make sure that that had been substituted in from Sunstreak Yes you have
motion to amend number one which OK. Corrects all of those.
Governors errors. For today we need to make that motion Yes Q. Thank you
you know. Nothing else and next time Teresa because I am twenty years permit one
forty nine application of yellow roses I will see to reduce the rear yard setback
from fifty feet to twenty five feet and to reduce the side yard setback from fifty
feet to fifteen feet for development of commercial space on property generally
located at South twenty seventh and Jamie lane. Members of council Mark unsecure
appearing on behalf of the applicant this is the configuration of some commercial
space which was previously approved just west of twenty seventh and Jamie lane on
the south side of Jamie lane. On the north side of Jamie lane as you may recall
Wal-Mart. The original application called for twenty five foot reduction of the
setback down to fifteenth Street feed and after some discussions with our neighbor
we've agreed with them on all the conditions of approval the Planning Commission
recommended you know endless approval and we would ask for your approval as well.
Try to answer
a question thank you very much questions for Mr Holmes or. You know that and yes
you know one here which is to testify on the side I'm. Do not see any eccentrics
and all right will go to item twenty one accepting the report of new and pending
claims against the city and approving disposition of claims so forth for the period
of February first through the fifteenth two thousand and fourteen this is not for
tuna day for anyone who has
a pending claim that they wish to protest to come before us.
Welcome. Well having heard today it's quite an
experience. Really been
a lot of fun I've really enjoyed it and please introduce yourself I'm sorry sick
Meyer I live at twenty ten Garfield here in Lincoln. And I have
submitted
a claim I don't believe it's been addressed yet I'm not sure that it's far far off
that I was putting up with signs about the sidewalk and I and acted.
Right on twentieth Street between Garfield and Washington's street on the
west of the east side street. And what I was wondering you could I have an
extension and are a continuance on this issue because my case because I have
a lot of questions I'd like answered and some. Excuse me I'm losing my voice and
some answers that I would like to statistics is such involving this city and
occurrences similar. To my fall will it be possible then that I would get
a continuance on this so that I can get my case better put together right thank you
thank you questions run right com for City tourney.
After we had notified Mr Meyer of
a recommendation that we were going to make She did make this request and I think
that we ask that she make it and as
a form all western of the public record jacked she's done that and we wouldn't
have any objection to that delaying it and tell that information to be gathered.
Yes Is there
a particular timeframe that needs to be complied with for. Many
purposes here and I don't know she's she doesn't have any problem with any
limitations periods OK. Yes I think. You're going to
be depended upon getting the information back or so from the city give us
included departments OK. We would probably be able to have that in the next couple
of weeks that the well I'd rather not set
a time line here I'd rather just provide for it we just remove it today from our
approval and then it just remains in the ether. Until such time that
a lot of Parliament feels that they need to bring it back before so well when
there's that whether be enough time do right after she said minutes yes no
information we recall revaluate the court yeah we're going to thank you and the
other questions do not see any thanks for being here you know hard you work with.
Noted Yeah yeah. Anyone else has
a claim that they wish to bring to the council this afternoon do not see any tree
said all right then we'll go on to our public hearing ordinances third reading
items twenty two twenty three and twenty four are are all related to the Ashbrook
drive. Again. Be an extension change of so in any special
permit right. So we've we've had
a public hearing but we continued public hearing correct so any new information or
. Additional information that would be helpful. Mr Houston would you like to.
Here come here. Tom Houston two three three South thirteenth STREET SWEEP one
thousand nine hundred here in Lincoln in behalf of development I was not here
troops going to was not my motion to defer for three weeks I can tell you would
have has happened the last three weeks and I've been in communication with Mr
Hoskins who has asked questions that
a partner roads and whether or not any frontage road could be installed between
each brick drive and I could drive right away form
a plane like road right away. Mr Hoskins can speak for himself but my reading of it
was that the department roads do not like the idea they do not like the idea of
placing
a frontage road within their right away because of they have their own department
roads design guidelines that require
a two hundred twenty feet separations my understanding. I think the other the other
my interpretation of the request for the delay to see whether or not the I like
Association in my plan brought more development could further our discussions and
I've had the discussion with Mr Austin who represents of my like Association and I
do not want you to underestimate the compromise that has been made already I mean I
think it is significant abroad more development in working with the plane like
Association significantly in dramatically change the scope of the project reducing
the density by one third decreasing the height of the five more than most northern
buildings from three stories to two stories. Increasing beside yard. From
a mandatory five foot setback to
a fifty foot setback the competition is two things that moves the property further
to the West moves that structures further west further down the grade to minimize
any site of the structures from the neighbors to the east. And also provides an
ample opportunity for
a hundred percent screen so the compromise that has been achieved in working with
the pilot associations Council I I do not want to underestimate that because I
think it is significant of Beyond that I would happy answer any questions you know
that my client to look at this property primarily that based upon the conference
a plan which we felt was validated by the staff report staff report recommended
approval with conditions even at
a density of two hundred one thousand units which then has been cut by
a third So we've tried to work closely with the PI like associations to the east
with the brain church to the west and we also have worked with the townhome
development to the north and are going to make additional changes to the
landscaping plan that has to be submitted to the city and we work with them to
address any concerns that they have. So I think the compromise does reflect that we
have three agreements in place now it's not one hundred percent obviously there are
still people that do not like the development but in balance I think the compromise
really met the objective so with that it be happy answering questions thank you
well I'm looking for new information today regarding this frontage road issue and
maybe Mr Hoskins could get up and give us some additional information. Because you
mention the two hundred twenty feet issue but I. I could be wrong my sumption is
that's where it would connect to the road that then would would have the
intersection with the big road it would mean that the road it's in its entirety
would have to be two hundred twenty feet away or wouldn't really be
a frontage road is that correct or are their standards so strict that they that
that would be outside the Right away it doesn't mean much if it's really hot since
this isn't city engineer you're correct typically I think what they would be
looking for is that much of
a distance separation from the highway probably at the points where it meets the
adjacent roads and so so from that standpoint you'd be looking at it but in between
that point other than they've expressed concerns of whether or not in this
situation they would probably not allow us to use the right of way to put the road
within it but they would have less concern about where it would be located in
relationship and we talk about a potentially
a one way road so be half the size the width of
a regular road it would be to get traffic that wants to go to the east away from
that intersection so wouldn't sit and wait for some like trucks and would allow it
to go over to
a light at eighty four. And. I understand there may be grating issues in the state
right away and they may just not want to have a road there but I think it is
a road if it were put in might be more of you mention
a driveway in status if it were driving over to I correct I
think that would be that would be inappropriate for this situation to just go with
the fairly minor type street door or drive or even Ok so I guess
the implication of that is that the cost could be less if it's
a driveway standard vs
a city street and so the costs would be lower for whoever might pay the bill to
make the cut. Action and the amount of space needed would be small although now
that we may feel like it's might be difficult to put it in the right away
a very small amount of land might be needed from the Pine Lake Association in order
to make the connection over to Uyghur and I guess I think the connection is
something important to look at but I also don't want to pursue something that no
one is which is actually negotiating to achieve so maybe that's where I don't know
if
a representative from Pinelake is interested in speaking to the possibility of having
some further discussions about that connection but I'd be interested Thankyou range
. Do we have is that OK Mr Jeff thank you.
If we could ask Mr Houston though if from his side of things if I cycling's idea of
from my perspective from
a client's perspective more importantly we've asked the question twice of the Pilot
Association really when the project was sized to
a different level two hundred one thousand units and at that time like Association
do not have any interest in granting an easement and that's what we were seeking
was an easement and I don't think any circumstances have changed well that well I
think they have
a little in that that just to make put this in context of what are what are the
parameters of this road now it would be maybe. Ten or twelve and twelve feet wide
maybe doesn't even need to be that driveway type design not particularly expensive
or thick also perhaps temporary in nature and that it could go away should
a traffic signal ever go and we did get information back from N.P.R.
That they don't appear to be flexible on the standards for the light and so it may
be some years before a light goes in a dash broke and we I think
a lot of people probably feel that it's that light will do
a great deal to help out our grid the traffic so before that like goes in if this
were available it would be great and then perhaps it could be deeded back to the
pine like Association now that's just what I was looking at I'd like to hear what
Pinelake might how they respond to that if that's even a possibility to have
a discussion about that. Bill last and I'm an attorney with the Baylor revenue law
firm forty eight feet six hundred and I represent the Pine Lake Association I have
represented them on the discussion list used to point out with me is Biljana cue
the president of the plane like Association at this time I can tell you that we
really have no portfolio for suggesting any further negotiations let's talk as
mentioned this came up at least twice there was no real interest in fact there was
significant disinterest in having any sort of funded road
a driveway across the. Property the state property I think is what we call it there
was also some concerns expressed by the southeast will fire protection district.
That would possibly be impacted leave by
a driveway that would be in that vicinity but I can't say any more than that we
have. Nothing to suggest that this like it Bill.
Billion
a key I'm currently president of the pine they claim owners association. We have
really not do when we've talked about this possibility in the past.
Residents and board have pretty much said we're not inclined to sell
land which is part of our horse stable for an intro. This
possibility I guess came up again at the end of this past week I can't speak on
behalf of the other Pinelake Association Board members or residents. I
don't want to say it couldn't be
a possibility you know there may be some possibility but again I it's
something I really can't answer and give other than personal feedback at this time
without hearing from other Pinelake. Board members and probably residence
also. Bill do you have
a meeting upcoming some of us and next Monday it's Monday is our Pinelake.
Monthly Meeting OK Thank you. Thank you and I guess
a trip to the pine like folks here on
a cue Mr Austin. I know that when Mr Hoskins was working for the state unfortunate
information came back last Friday. There's been
a lot of communication it was like we all know among neighbors and so forth in the
council and I'm sure I've gotten but. I'm hearing you talk somewhat
negative that there's any further room for Pinelake to work in
a solution or and I know you can't speak for the whole group but. Where the board
voted four to three to support us and then with the different individuals. You see
any hope of what Mr Cooke was tossing out of love and twelve foot
temporary road that would go away when the light is put in
a. Broken highway to. Be realistic here and all parties.
I've received very little feedback since last Friday. Some people have
said maybe we ought to talk about it. But.
I don't think again I can speak on behalf of what other people are thinking or
feeling at this point. I know we left the public hearing open for discussions on
this traffic issue and not to retread old issues but when I see several residents
or so maybe they'll say something. Like we're trying to get a little bit of
a litmus test here of what realistic things are or we just go ahead and vote today
. Ed one thing John is that I don't think it ends up being
a very simple question for us. I mean you know we have
a meeting next week but we parked this issue probably back and I don't know what it
was September October when it was raised and it was rather vehement disapproval.
But we didn't pursue it any further and basically left out se real fire protection
from any discussions and it's not something that I think that we could just do in
a meeting real quickly just have there's a little more conflict. Given
a yes or no. Well if I may I guess thinking out loud here with that in mind say
we won here with the vote today and then broad more was approved on the three
issues. That would necessarily stop the discussions I guess it just takes away some
of the. I guess impetus to try to see if there's something there that would help
and between the two entities with. I would add that there is
a condition of approval that the site plan submitted by Broad more must show an
access road. It is currently in stamp report that this access road does have to be
shown on the stamp reports exactly what you're seeing can be further explore it I
spoke to my client my my client's most interested in decision today I can tell you
that they've had multiple extensions with the
a property owner on the sales and if they're going to move on this property they
need to do so so I would ask you to go ahead and take action today given the fact
that the plan will have to show an access road where
a road could be connected Could you define
a little more Mr Houston and I guess I'm looking from the standpoint of record you
put that on a sheet of paper. But the law and showing it if it's not
a reality or if it wouldn't be say it involves some Pinelake acquisition of
a tiny amount or something how does that bear on that or is it just just
a good. Good drawing that would show that access room trying to find the A
conditions of approval.
First we have three Stanford course I have to find the right one there's
a special permit it should be
a. What's
not jumping out at me I know that was part of the conditions that was presented in
the motion to amend the Planning Commission I presume it was at city council too so
. Mr Crow may be able to help it was I was going to. Certainly there was no
requirement in the condition of approval that were mandated that it built but. Mr
Prout no runaway please. And if you look at Mr Houston review all us what exactly
is this requirement of the access road what I mean they just shows up in even if
it's not doable it just requires the Marvel Prateik the access road
provides for the requirement that that if the road can be made available by the
Pinelake neighbors then this will be designed in
a way that the apartment complex can connect to it. So it's so i think
but time used I was saying was there still the possibility of further further
discussions if it was approved that that that extension could be made of Pi Lake
neighbors decided after the action they were interested. In if they
decided not to have there isn't
a condition though there is no obligation beyond. This as recommended.
In the conditions the approval of the apartments is not contingent on the
construction of that driveway. Only on the ability to make that connection in the
future. And other questions.
Of you no one else here who wishes to speak might have Mr Awesomes react to any
initial thought or you want to maybe come back with the revolving.
Door. You know quite frankly I have no further thoughts on it OK thank you I would
like Reserve rebuttal OK I'm. Mr Moody.
Numbers the council Thank you Robert moody sixty five ten Ashbrook drive. The
compromise that the developer has worked with the Pine Lake neighborhood
association is admirable but it really only applies to the Pine Lake neighborhood
association and the biggest compromise that the pine Nick neighborhood association
got Ron from the very beginning was
a. Backtrack from the basic concept of neighborhood connectivity
which generally under the plans of the city would require that this new development
be able to connect with neighborhoods on both sides and not just on one side and
that was pretty quickly abandoned in these discussions and the result was that
basically all the in grass and the grass egress and exit from this development is
now going to be on Ashbrook drive. Which affects Pinelake neighborhood but affects
my neighborhood on Ashbrook critique and community a court to
a much greater extent I really don't have anything new to say from what we said of
the last public hearing except that the report from Mr Hoskins basically tells us
that you know there is have been no new ideas on how to deal with the traffic on
how the traffic is going to affect Ashbrook drive in this case if you approve the
program today the road the access road Tiger drive is not going to be built I've
talked to people in Pine Lake I've talked to Mr Austin I've attended several of the
plan like neighborhood association meetings Mr Yanik he may not be willing to
predict what the Pinelake neighborhood association is going to do my prediction is
playing like neighborhood association really wants to separate itself from this
development and they've obtained some concessions that will separate it no access
one hundred percent tree. Blockage. Pinelake neighborhood
once the attention then to go to the west which is my neighborhood and we have
already noticed it's temporary but with all Cheney closed the traffic on Ashbrook
in the last month or two is significantly increased and that's what we see is going
to happen in this neighborhood with the the addition to this program so although my
neighborhood is not officially organized I and the informal spokesman for those of
us who live on Ashbrook drive it's still in our four neighborhood it's still one
hundred forty seven units our position would be that for many reasons including ash
including traffic this is just an opportune place for this this development and we
would encourage you to deny it. Questions for Mr Moody. Thank you thanks for coming
anyone else here who wishes to testify.
Welcome Jennifer Keitt sic ROLLINSON sixty four forty one West Shore Drive. Clearly
been here before and I know you only want new information but I thought I'd show
you what the tiny piece of the twenty four foot driveway which is what the city is
recommending might look like on
a map. Not to scale.
You can see obviously the property lines I hope that's kind of clear but the
sharpie line is roughly the distance twenty four feet from the property line so you
can see it actually segments quite
a large section of that property that plane like Association owns so it's not
really
a very small question of where that road would go and this is the better case scenario
for the pilot's perspective if we were to have to give up land only because they
connect to the old Pine Lake Road and doesn't intersect all the way to Uyghur it
goes to an old style brode. Sorry question I'm confused this road is
twenty four feet from the property line. He said I believe it's twenty four foot in
width but I had asked Charlie Well Robert I mean I'm not sure I don't know if your
sharpie supposed to be the other the other well curved line where there's
a curb or not it's so you're saying I just make sure I understand what you're
drawing. That I had like I said I have this is well and I knew you were on the pine
like property this is the thing. Pretty this is the land
that the road or access point would need to be going to be adjacent to the highway
to right of way and this line is about twenty four feet from the yellow line which
is the proper opening in Iraq simply the right of way right if you're in that area
this area is the old road stab road this is the driveway which you can see
Southeast rural is very close but that would be the natural path there might be
better options obviously this is Uygur but my understanding is that the highway
folks don't really want to have an intersection next to an intersection so this is
just a way of trying to draw
a picture about what we're talking about OK now I understand and of course you've
heard that we were discussing that it wouldn't have to be twenty four feet it could
be half that or even less and that twenty four foot number came from the planning
that was mostly initial truly a street if it were
a one way while they still call that a driveway
a twenty four foot and they're asking for a sidewalk and
a sidewalk would be an issue I feel in that location as well I I guess I don't know
what the sidewalk would be about but the twenty four feet that makes sense if it's
a two way driveway if it's
a one way driveway could be half that would so just keep in mind if you're if
you're drawing OK I don't go there anyway I drove an address just to make sure
we're talking OK What we need
a sidewalk. Help us understand. From here I don't
I did not envision this having
a sidewalk alongside it. I think pedestrian connectivity is good but I don't think
this is no sort of necessarily an area where we would we would need to have
a sidewalk. And I would I would echo the thoughts that. You know it could
be thirteen to fifteen feet total like if we're talking fence to fence with
something like. Can I just ask you questions Ronson do
you feel that because we've talked about several types of roads over the course of
this application Planning Commission it was
a two way what's being considered right now by Mr Hoskins and conductor of the
state is potentially of
a one way connection that's much smaller do you feel like you need any more time to
speak with the rest of the pie like Association to clarify what is being proposed
and whether or not there is support for that or would you prefer you know more
discussion you know I I respect Brad Moore's desire to move forward with the
property I still feel very strongly that this is
a. Maybe fantastic proposal but in the wrong location there's
a lot of short comings to that property and those connections the adjacent property
owners. Concerns are valid and real and approving that proposal in that location is
going to create problems for all of us in that area clearly there are pros and cons
we're all in favor of developing our grand city. To answer your question more
directly that is a question
a plan like Association board would have to discuss I don't know exactly how much
more information they need. As far as an incentive to connect more people to our
property it would certainly be
a better benefit to our neighbors to the north and west very honest talking about
growing to fifteen thousand members that might be there on one weekend they have
meetings there every single day it's not
a Sunday only service and that's tripling the size of their current congregation at
those numbers they said in the Planning Commission report into the woods you can
see. Is already planted to have additional growth. So they'll be those
additional homes in that area as well so this is not the only development in the
area clearly I know that all of us have been talking and we know that
a solution is being asked. We all need to come to
a conclusion of what this property might be and I think everyone's very much in the
minds that we can get that done Does everyone agree that this is the right proposal
less clearly not. It's definitely not cut and dry. So it you know maybe Bill
would have an idea whether pilot needs more time or not but that would be something
he'd be responsible for any. Other questions from Israel's I'd like to ask you one
thing you're involved with horses right OK So and and how many horses are there at
the location that repartee allows for six and that's currently happening and plan
to continue to happen no changes you know very handsome
a really cute kids out there riding horses right now and having
a blast and I don't see any reason for that to change I like Association had been
an older community and as you might have noticed there's
a lot of construction in the area and
a lot of young families have moved in and I would expect that to continue growing
things. No other questions very good thank you anyone else who wishes to
speak to us this evening on the site and yes Mr Austin.
I would like to confirm what you have in front of you I've been trying to find.
What. Document you would be voting on the last I saw was
a resolution that called for two hundred twenty units and there was supposed to be
a vote. On this one on. This motion to amend this is Mr
conference. That's right the. One that I have. Is this
what we this is the one we would be acting on today that is correct according to
law. I don't have a copy. That's
a problem. But
I brought Yes that's all that we have we do not have it reformatted do we get any
other form or is it. This is the one I have today I thought it was unusual but when
I ask if we needed to have
a new format I was told this was fine so. I
certainly hope that. I have another. I could.
Maybe write does.
Yes yes.
All right I'm again on time Houston but I was suggesting when we had the public
hearing on the item was that if there was going to be
a motion for approval of the resolution that first to be
a motion for amendment yes reciprocal replacing those items referenced in
a Motion Yes So what is what is originally on our agenda amended by this should
be sufficient to accomplish the adjustments that you talked about that you agreed
to as part of the deal. Right
and the other questions what we talked about if you believe that the sidewalk off
of them. We certainly would accept that as
a friendly amendment to the amendment that if there is no need for
a sidewalk there is no need for
a sidewalk and I wouldn't use your hospital the same.
With the sun so would be still leading the words with a sidewalk slide or just as
a detour there is
a gentle note which states quote sidewalk and road extension but if you didn't
sidewalk What says for me is responsible for the construction of the driveway with
a sidewalk to Uyghur drive an excellent use of or I don't know that sidewalk is
something when. I know sidewalk and also delete it in the first sentence of this
road extension. Pine Ridge lane. I did see
and that one may me that's that's something else that is something else that that
most people don't have OK Broadmoor agreed to support the neighborhoods effort to
vacate that right away if we believe that the near sidewalk isn't waved and would
be the right language yes. I guess so I don't have an from here I'll bring
that with me so your are coming back in the ring with new information please.
Oh there will be
a special permit. But we're only talking about that section two of the motion to
and will record in the print The sees it says with the sidewalk on line three yes
we're deleting with the sidewalk. So agreed for the
construction of the driveway to Uyghur drive.
We're deleting the parent Thetic on line three. If so so this paragraph section two
would require you. To put that road in should the easement become available within
the next ten years that is ground zero. That's more than Mr Prout was saying where
you just show
a connection you actually have to build the concussion but recognizing there is
a condition here over which we have no control oh right you right you have no
control if they give you the easement they come knocking and they say we'd like and
we're giving you an easement could you come in construct this road you are under an
obligation then to construct. And walk for forty two bar of so my reading of the
county says records that all were cable cars.
And would you Mr or used them review the landscape that was proposed to assist
the group of. The study was represented. With
dinner or
a last meeting I think was right prior to the public hearing one of things I should
emphasize that. From the time we got submitted for the two hundred one thousand
units until we made the amendment we have to resubmit new documents to the planning
department
a new site plan new landscaping plan new utility plan new grading plan as
a part of that process part of the landscaping plan we agreed to provide the
landscaping planned for the review and comment of the town homes to because we do
want to read address their concerns but we don't want to seal our structures from
the natural areas of the wetlands but we do want to shield our parking areas from
any light intrusion to the towns to the north even though it's
a four feet but we told them that we would share
a landscaping plan with them to try to address that specific concern so we did make
that commitment and we will do that.
All the questions. I might make one other comment I think that the motion to amend
it have in front of you may not amend everything that needs to be amended here you
may want to make some sort of general comment about conforming it because there are
a couple places where two hundred twenty units are mentioned as being approved and
the men that you have in front of you doesn't reflect
a change for instance in line twelve or so as you're proving up to two hundred
twenty units. I think that. I would
just just do something to make sure that it's all. About
oh I meet
a city attorney is here. Where you're you can help us. With
in order to conform this would you and or your client take some of the lawyer just
because we really don't want to start writing from the diocese like this this if
you like what happened was if I recall correctly Mr Houston handed out the several
copies of the council I never got one side I don't know what you're talking about
but I thought. I thought I asked maybe I dreamed it that I that whether this was
adequate as it stood or whether we needed to have it redrawn in our normal format
and I thought the answer was it from you the very it was from repeal No no because
I wouldn't discuss this last week but I thought the answer was yes it's fine that's
maybe not the case I don't have any problem with the format but I I don't know what
it says well that's
a problem. That's up for my guest OK number one rule is the city attorney should
always get
a copy of the amendment from the attorney for the developer and I doubt you'd
probably get make sure I had one better way forgot about it OK. So given
that and given that there might be some uncertainty and I don't it's not our normal
procedure here to make general statements and hope somebody gets the language
cleaned up does it make sense to delay
a week just for action at least to get the to make sure this is done correctly that
there are no bits that are not getting changed that need to be changed. Mr Houston
. Could we have our senior journalist around for me to say otherwise OK.
Thank you OK. I'm saying. All right I think we know
where we're going now I hope so all right. And we're going to.
Get their comments and when else here to testify. You know we get
do we want to be thought I would say if we want to have voted on the an exception
just so we don't have three issues or you want to you know I want all three as
a package to be acted upon I do want to reaffirm that commitment that the pilots
association and to the owner of the property that it's
a package or not OK. Thank you.
Next time that concludes our public hearing. OK.
OK In the moving session ordinances second reading our item sixteen through
eighteen. Public Hearing resolutions Item nineteen approving the
city of Lincoln redevelopment agreement between Piedmont shopping center in the
city for the people and shopping center redevelopment project at twelve sixty five
south Cutler Boulevard and really this was introduced by camp so moved second
second by right discussion. Do you have
a motion to amend number one oh yes move motion Oh man number one I'll second
motion about another one and you. Can see if I trim and it does well it fixes
a lot of mistakes and I want to think we are in particular for catching
a lot. Right away when when she looked at this and so Steph was able to prepare
a number of changes it shows though why you know when
a large documents always important to spend some time so these are all corrections
then that fix the various mistakes in the attachments and nothing more than
a. Discussion on the moment. At least overall Christianson
Yes Cook Yes Emory Yes Yes curious fillers Yes Really beard yes camp Bush in Kerry
seven to zero I mean motion and. Yes Well and.
This is of course been
a multi-part process this is we're finally there and I just want to tell Mr Glyn
how much I appreciate his efforts here I think this is
a beautiful project and will be an enormous improvement to Piedmont and surrounding
area. And I'm very excited about it happening and I know we've had lots of back and
forth over lots of details in this project but I think it's come together in the
end beautifully and inside Thank you so much. Appreciate the attention you also
mentioned today that you're giving too pedestrian and bicycle movement through the
center and that's really important as we start to see the growing demand for that
thank you anyone else on the old Safeway scene John King at work here.
And I'm sure there will be some alliance from Kay's restaurants back neck area OK
with that please call the role Christianson Yes Cook Yes Emery Yes yes sellers yes
he would Baird Yes Camp motion carried seven to zero the next item is used permit
one forty nine. To reduce the rear yard setback from fifty feet to
twenty five feet and to reduce the side yard setback from fifty feet to fifteen
feet for development of commercial space on property generally located south twenty
seventh and Jamie lane introduced by camp summer second second by Roy discussion
Rolf Christiansen Yes Cook Yes Emory Yes feller's Yes Gaylor Baird Yes
Camp Yes Kerry seven to zero item twenty one is
a report of claims against the city for the very first through the fifteenth two
thousand and fourteen introduced by camp so they can not look to me to.
Put remove They don't want to remove the claim of sherry limb or we would
depend just removing it from the instrument remove the second second by
trumped discussion of the role Christianson Yes cook and really screwed yes
yes Galen Baird Yes yes motion carried seven to zero on the main motion. I
mean. We didn't we just took that out so we need to approve them
a motion OK please call the roll Christianson Yes Cook Yes Emory Yes yes Scrooge
Yes fellers Yes Khela paired yes camp Yes QUESTION Kerry seven to zero. Curing
ordinances third reading items twenty two an accession one three zero zero four
amending the. Corporate limits mapped by an exceeding approximately fifteen point
eight one acres generally located at highway to an ash but Dr introduced by Emory
so moved second. And. That we delay for
action only one week items twenty two through twenty four second.
Would YOU CAN THEY LITERALLY other two items into the record yes yes and the other
two items then would be changes on one three zero two zero application of
Livingston investments for a change from A.G.R.
Agricultural residential to our four at highway to an aspirant drive in and special
permit one three zero four three The application of Livingston investments to
develop the broad More asked for compartments the U.P.
To allow up to two hundred twenty two Allen units that highway to an aspirant drive
both introduced by Emery second. To delay the action only
one week those three items were piecemealing anything here will just make sure the
lot apartment has had
a chance to give us an amendment that is correct. You know for not for discussion
about the road or anything else. OK so. I guess you know what
I'm pondering is this we heard from the neighbors that they meet next week but but
we're well just bring this back next week and we could delay it to fifty at that
point so would it make sense to do it two weeks now or not and leave that up to the
rest of you I. I don't think we need to delay it any further than this clean
up the amendment. I didn't hear an agreement gave me any optimism about writing
them bring something new to us even in two weeks if you.
Called. A second at that Roy thank you.
Christiansen Yes Cook Yes Emery yes yes yes sellers yes Kaylor Baird Yes Camp
Yes moshing Kerry seven dizzier zero. Four and it says third treating.
Item twenty five after rising the purchase agreement for the sale of city owned
property generally located in fifteen twenty Mandarin St to Kylie Shelton
introduced by Keeler Baird second second by Roy discussion we do have
a motion to amend number one on this one as well. You know shell from
a number one second. Seconded by Trent and
that does what it's authorization to obtain inspections and services and they
acknowledge my disclosure is part of the purchase agreement. Right discussion.
Yes Cook Yes Emery Yes. Fillers Yes killer Baird Yes Camp
Yes motion Kerry seven dizzier Oh OK Now on the main motion. Discussion.
Of the role Christianson Yes Cook Yes Emory Yes yes fellers Yes Baird
Yes Camp Yes Kerry seven dizzier Oh. I am twenty six approving
a real estate sales agreement between the city and since Cynthia asked again for
the sale of city owned property generally located at one forty four B.
Street introduced by Gail or BAIRD So the second thing about the right discussion.
Called world. Yes Cook Yes Emory Yes feller's Gaylor Baird
Yes can. Carry seven to zero. And I'm twenty seven
approving
a real estate sales agreement between the city and neighborhoods in the sale of
city owned property generally located at twenty six Eastern eight introduced by
Caleb Baird second by Roy discussion Caldwell Crist Yes
yes Emory and screw just sellers yes Baird Yes Camp Kerry seven to
zero I am twenty eight is amending Chapter eighteen point zero four of the
Lincoln's book Code relating to construction requirements introduced by Keillor
Baird. So I come by Roy discussion just to say I'm happy this is finally
before so I know the newspaper even editorialized regarding this today has been.
Under discussion for some number of years that there was this strange no man's land
where the. Rules that apply to everyone else didn't apply and like so many
things we find that state laws and it's often that fault so now that the state
legislature has acted now we get
a chance to clean it up so it's one of those things like so many things we do where
not everybody even lives to see the outcome in this case it's only been
a few years this is excellent that we got to see it from the time it was identified
to fixing it and I'm glad that. We can show progress being
made. Question Caldwell.
Yes yes Emory Eskridge spellers Yes they were Beard Yes. Motion
carried seven to zero. Those first reading are items twenty nine through
thirty two. Resolutions on first reading are items thirty three and thirty four
are. I threw thirty eight.
Are open mike session is next Monday for my structure second.
OK overall Christianson Yes Cook Yes Emory Yes and Scrooge feller so you had
scaly Baird Yes Camp Yes grade seven to zero germs.